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Botting to become a kage
« on: September 27, 2014, 16:39:51 »
I was reading a post earlier today, and I posted something along the lines of what i'll post here.

I think if the kage's are to gain the rank by being voted for, there will be some arrogant individuals who create hundreds of accounts or use a macro script to create them and vote for themselves. I think the only way to stop that would be to create a minimum level needed to vote, so accounts that have just started cant vote.


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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2014, 16:42:50 »
One will have to pay once for each account he/she creates, so idk how viable multi-acc is considering the fact that it'd cost quite a lot to create hundreds of accounts, out of which you only play on one of them.
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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2014, 17:24:47 »
One will have to pay once for each account he/she creates, so idk how viable multi-acc is considering the fact that it'd cost quite a lot to create hundreds of accounts, out of which you only play on one of them.
Taking that in mind, obviously there will be real world trading websites, I guess lots of people could buy votes, where the players would be paid 25p for instance for voting for a certain person. I'm sure this would be cheaper than creating accounts. But if this was to happen then there would be no need for the low level voting system, as higher level players would do this. Do you have any ideas on how you would stop this?
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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2014, 17:35:14 »
One will have to pay once for each account he/she creates, so idk how viable multi-acc is considering the fact that it'd cost quite a lot to create hundreds of accounts, out of which you only play on one of them.
Taking that in mind, obviously there will be real world trading websites, I guess lots of people could buy votes, where the players would be paid 25p for instance for voting for a certain person. I'm sure this would be cheaper than creating accounts. But if this was to happen then there would be no need for the low level voting system, as higher level players would do this. Do you have any ideas on how you would stop this?
This is a simulation, so there won't be any need to stop this at all imo. Voting for someone with the promise of receiving in-game currency will lead to the choice of a leader who won't be fit, therefore making the village suffer. After a few times people will realize that by doing this they'll harm their own village. So let them hurt themselves until they learn.
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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2014, 18:03:39 »
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This is a simulation, so there won't be any need to stop this at all imo. Voting for someone with the promise of receiving in-game currency will lead to the choice of a leader who won't be fit, therefore making the village suffer. After a few times people will realize that by doing this they'll harm their own village. So let them hurt themselves until they learn.
Sorry, I don't think I explained properly, I meant if someone was paid in real life currency. Somebody could pay everyone who voted for him/her $1 in real life.
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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2014, 16:52:02 »
Bribing has always been part of political systems and will most likely also exist in our universe if people take it serious enough. We can't prevent people from voting if they make a deal off the record.
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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2014, 16:57:32 »
Bribing has always been part of political systems and will most likely also exist in our universe if people take it serious enough. We can't prevent people from voting if they make a deal off the record.
Surely that is kind of pay to win, because if you have loads of real life money you can become the kage. I know it wont give you special powers, but still. Those people with millions real life will all be kages
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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2014, 17:00:11 »
Bribing has always been part of political systems and will most likely also exist in our universe if people take it serious enough. We can't prevent people from voting if they make a deal off the record.
Surely that is kind of pay to win, because if you have loads of real life money you can become the kage. I know it wont give you special powers, but still. Those people with millions real life will all be kages
It isn't pay to win, as it isn't part of the system. If one is so desperate to become a Kage that he's willing to pay loads of money to accomplish this then so be it. Chances are that he won't even be a good leader so I don't see where the biggie is.
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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2014, 17:02:36 »
Bribing has always been part of political systems and will most likely also exist in our universe if people take it serious enough. We can't prevent people from voting if they make a deal off the record.
Surely that is kind of pay to win, because if you have loads of real life money you can become the kage. I know it wont give you special powers, but still. Those people with millions real life will all be kages
Bit of an exaggeration don't you think? Besides, if money is the only redeeming quality you have I doubt that they would be able to survive long or have much support afterwards.
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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2014, 17:03:21 »
Yeah I guess
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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2014, 20:20:42 »
After giving this a second thought, I can see how this won't be a problem.

As I said, bribing should be allowed because it's been part of humanity, but only if it's done within Shinobi Life Online's world. In other words, it will be forbidden to be done in the context of meta-gaming and real life money.

The thing that matters here is that someone won't be able to pull off a large scale bribe using real life money, large enough to have an impact on other competitors, without us noticing it.
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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2014, 20:29:48 »
The thing that matters here is that someone won't be able to pull off a large scale bribe using real life money, large enough to have an impact on other competitors, without us noticing it.
Besides, if there is something sketchy about it, just pull a Bush v. Gore. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Florida,_2000)
Force a re-election between the competitors. This will most likely solve the problem, as well as waste the money of the cheater because those who voted for him due to money will already have the money, thus in the re-election, they will vote for whoever they truly want to be Kage. YeYe.
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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2014, 11:20:49 »
who knows? the ones that dont want to vote for the briber again might disappear...
but srsly, why wouldnt he do that.
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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2014, 23:59:57 »
i think the best way it's to do a tournament to choose the kage for an amount of time

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Re: Botting to become a kage
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2014, 00:20:55 »
The problem with that is that it isn't a players decision. Besides, just because they are the most powerful doesn't mean they are suitable for Kage, there are other key factors that go into play. That's why an election is the best path to go, because players choose what type of leader they want.
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