What do clans and organisations mean to you guys?

[Yamasukage]

Your organization is where you meet like minded people and they will be the ones who you are with most of the time, But my clan and the people in that clan still mean a lot to me, like a whole lot

I mean after i took over Himitsu, it just grew on me, even if at one point i was the only active Himitsu member to make it something. To make the name something special again. I've grown to love the clan and everything it stands for, as well as the members. Likewise with Heathen

So i can't really decide haha

Well Taiga really summed it up for me cause although Roghunata is filled with some pretty messed up peeps -cough- Darth and a couple of people that make it feel like a political party those people make the project feel exciting and give me a sense of purpose. 

Yet compared to my dead clan Roghunata feels like heaven, but yet no matter what I can't turn away from Sanderaisu for some weird reason members come and go and heck I only have two discord members and my seldomly active (shout out to @Skilo, @TM_twister  and @ShadowSlayer woooh) their loyalty and desire to stay in a cemetery-like clan gives me more determination to make the Sanderaisu clan the face of the hidden shock.

Now for village, well its uhm shocking?

[Toratsume Nyshn]

aight... since the friends over all options has been included... I'll take it

So its
Friends first. Because It is with them nakamas.. that I'll be spending most of my time with and will have memories with.
Next comes village. Cuz I'm a patriot... so do I want my character to be . And after all, the village gave us home (as per my clan's history) so Its our duty to protect it.
Then comes Organisation. Its this group of people which will help me achieve my goals.
And Finally comes clan. That doesn't means I'll pull off an Itachi on my clan.
After all...
It my family peeps...
Who are my first nakama,
The first villagers whom I came to know
and the first kind of organisation to which I was introduced to.
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[Mars]

Friends
Clan
Village
Organisation

Clan wouldn't be first because someone in your clan could be a complete douche and kill all your friends or something.
You can choose your friends, not your clanmates.

After friends it would be clan, then village, then organisation.

Village would be above organisation as organisations are for a common goal.
A village is a community you're a part of.

[Whatasnipe]

Really depends on who you are I guess

Itachi chose the good of the village over his clan

Sakumo Hatake chose his Comrades over the village/mission

The Uchiha's chose their clan over the village

The akatsuki chose the org over everything else (Albeit they're rogues but still)

It all depends on what means more to you. If you're unsure, make up scenarios to try and figure out for yourself. If your organization wanted to assassinate a member of your clan, what would you do? If your clan attempts a coup on your village, what would you do?

[Diamond Lee]

Really depends on who you are I guess

Itachi chose the good of the village over his clan

Sakumo Hatake chose his Comrades over the village/mission

The Uchiha's chose their clan over the village

The akatsuki chose the org over everything else (Albeit they're rogues but still)

It all depends on what means more to you. If you're unsure, make up scenarios to try and figure out for yourself. If your organization wanted to assassinate a member of your clan, what would you do? If your clan attempts a coup on your village, what would you do?

If my org tried to assasinate one of my clansmen, and I agreed wit the motive, I would go with the org. If my clan staged a coup on the village, I would no matter what protect my village. And if my org decided to eradicate my clan, i would.... uh well.... idk.

[StriderOtaku]

There's going to be some contradicting shit in this game.For example,I just got done reading all the clan and org descriptions and I can see how interests and priorities might cross over each other.Take the Heathen org for example; I noticed there were an awful lot of Tsukegamis there,in an organization that is terribly neutral and gives out hits on other shinobi in SLO(including Kages) as it pleases them.The Tsukegami clan puts clan members over all according to their description and punishes offenders to this rule,as do many other clans while the Heathens put the org's loyalty over all else and punish betrayal with death,as do many other orgs. Now if the current Kage of Okagakure happens to be a Tsukegami and also a high ranking member in this clan,possibly their chief, what will the Tsukegami members of Heathen do if a hit was put out on their Kage by their Organisation? Clan/Village over all or Organisation over all? Either way, they become an enemy of one party in the end.How do you guys plan to deal with such situations?

[Malix]

That's a great point and most likely sooner or later clans and orgs are going to have to do some purging or become more flexible in what they require out of their members.

[Tsunayoshi]

@StriderOtaku I've thought about it before,  if it does happen, they'll either choose to kill a fellow Tsukegami or leave the org.
To avoid that, one could simply not join a clan, and just join an organization, or just join a clan.


In my organization, the members are devoted to the organization, not just a 'member'. If u get what I mean.

You could say I require much from my members already.

[Diamond Lee]

To add on to that, with the new Kages, we see that all except for one (too lazy to look it up) remained in their organizations after gaining the position of leader of their village. This could really cause some major problems, as a kage might be influenced by their organization, or even manipulated by it if they are not its leader, and do something that is not in the villages' best interest. Imo, Kages should consider leaving their organization. Although i guess they shouldn't, at this point, because clans and orgs and villages mean nothing. Clans and orgs are after all just groups of friends for now.

[StriderOtaku]

@StriderOtaku I've thought about it before,  if it does happen, they'll either choose to kill a fellow Tsukegami or leave the org.
To avoid that, one could simply not join a clan, and just join an organization, or just join a clan.


In my organization, the members are devoted to the organization, not just a 'member'. If u get what I mean.

You could say I require much from my members already.

I see.Well I agree with Lee that the game has perhaps not advanced enough for clear choices to be made and maybe by the time SLO will be launched completely as it should be most players would have set their priorities.I personally dont see a reason for a Kage to be in an Organisation like Heathen or katakiuchi as it would do more damage to their clans and villages but I can definitely picture a Kage being a high ranking member of Roguhanta.                                                                                     
So,maybe it'll all be cleared up later..I hope.

[Reminance]

To add on to that, with the new Kages, we see that all except for one (too lazy to look it up) remained in their organizations after gaining the position of leader of their village. This could really cause some major problems, as a kage might be influenced by their organization, or even manipulated by it if they are not its leader, and do something that is not in the villages' best interest. Imo, Kages should consider leaving their organization. Although i guess they shouldn't, at this point, because clans and orgs and villages mean nothing. Clans and orgs are after all just groups of friends for now.

For me this wouldn't be problem.
Roguhanta captures rogues.
I protect the Thunder village as kage against??? Rogues.

That is why i wouldn't have to abandon my Organization.
As it does not interfere with my goals nor the village goals.

(It was Ken who left his org because he was in the biggest Rogue org)
Kage+Rogue don't fit.

@StriderOtaku You already made my point haha.
As for the other Kages i have no idea how they are going to deal with this.
As for the contradicting part, they are going to have to make changes then.

[DarthTyrael]

Same.
I have no problem with conflicting interests.
Roguhanta protects stuff against Rogues.
I'm in charge of the Roguhanta department in Dust.
I'm Dust Kage.


So besides having to send my shinobi out on missions I'll have a special Roguhanta hour in which roguhanta members will accept missions from me or go on missions with me.

Same for the clan. Sabaku's completely devoted to the Dust Village. My biggest allegiance is that to the Village, but friends are more important