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Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« on: June 23, 2016, 14:31:24 »
Ok so first I think we need to be clear to everyone that dose not know what Fuinjutsu is!!
Fuinjutsu is the art of puting something in or taking somthing out of an object- mostly for the  purposes of conserving stamina, strength, and it can also be used to Capture intangible things like chakra and even Jutsu
There is obvious low level non combat uses for this, sence objects like weapons  can be very heavy and slow a ninja down as well as use up stamina- sealing it to eliminate the weight of the item is a easy solution. This is  similar  to advanced bag slots in other MMOARPG games.

But do we want to make this a combat Jutsu?? There are applications for sure... What if say some one uses a flamethrower Jutsu on you and you seal the Jutsu in a scroll. If you servive the fight could you then use the Jutsu and study the way it is made to create a scroll to teach the Jutsu from, or even later seal the Jutsu in a chakra blade imbuing it with that nature. Simpler to  augment slots in other MMORPG's

Do we want to seal a corps so it won't slow us down when we are bringing a bounty back, or can we seal a player for a short period of time at Realy high levels?

We need to start to list real boundaries for this kind of Jutsu because you can literally change the terrain of the game if we don't- I want to seal that mountain with  enough training should you be able to??

Just something to think about!!

« Last Edit: June 23, 2016, 14:36:02 by cmsurfer »



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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2016, 21:13:59 »
;_: Dude


I'm guessing this is a work in progress, but I do think ideas will be appreciated.

Anyway, as usual, my two cents:

Fuinjutsu will be alot like medical jutsu, you start at low levels being able to seal inanimate objects of small sizes and work your way up to being able to seal large objects.

Since it's probably going to have its own skill tree, I'd suggest that there'd be a different branch for living things - shinobi and animals alike.

To seal a living thing is incredibly risky and if failed, the user could suffer large chakra loses? (I was going to suggest the living thing died but that'd be op)

The success of the sealing depends on several things;
  • The Fuuinjutsu skill of the user
  • Whether or not the target is moving (this would encourage teamwork in order to seal a moving user)
  • The strength of the scroll

It should not be possible to seal a shinobi for more than 15 minutes and there will be a chance of the shinobi breaking out by discharging chakra into the seal.

Scrolls would also be pre-prepared, the longer a user spends infusing his chakra into a seal, the stronger it will become.



Maybe we could seal chakra beasts into NPCs and Kage/Elder's could order them? Idk...
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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2016, 22:17:40 »
Sealing players should have a lot of restrictions if it's to be implemented. Maybe only sealing them if they're immobile? Maybe you'd have to grab them in some kind of snare, like how Yamato uses his wood style to constrict people, before sealing a player. Which works with sealing a dead body for a bounty, because a dead guy probably isn't moving very fast. Sealing items is also a must


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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2016, 23:22:45 »
Which works with sealing a dead body for a bounty, because a dead guy probably isn't moving very fast.
No.. A dead person probably won't move at all. lel
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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2016, 23:30:34 »
Which works with sealing a dead body for a bounty, because a dead guy probably isn't moving very fast.
No.. A dead person probably won't move at all. lel

You haven't been killed by a God Mode player ;_;
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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2016, 23:33:19 »
You haven't been killed by a God Mode player ;_;
So, replying to this, I'd like to say.. @Nova xD.

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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2016, 23:43:18 »
Just summarizing what I said in the jutsu creation topic.

In my opinion, fuuinjutsu can be interpreted so much broader:

Create seal tags to seal of limbs of your enemies (debuffs) or unseal an allies' chakra lines (buffs).

Make barriers.

Lock someone in place.

Cloaking/hiding your chakra (individual or AoE).

Again, lots of potential.




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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 01:29:41 »
Just summarizing what I said in the jutsu creation topic.

In my opinion, fuuinjutsu can be interpreted so much broader:

Create seal tags to seal of limbs of your enemies (debuffs) or unseal an allies' chakra lines (buffs).

Make barriers.

Lock someone in place.

Cloaking/hiding your chakra (individual or AoE).

Again, lots of potential.

much better than my idea ;_; +rep
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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2016, 04:16:16 »
much better than my idea ;_; +rep

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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2016, 12:47:32 »
much better than my idea ;_; +rep

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Off topic lol but funny

Just summarizing what I said in the jutsu creation topic.

In my opinion, fuuinjutsu can be interpreted so much broader:

Create seal tags to seal of limbs of your enemies (debuffs) or unseal an allies' chakra lines (buffs).

Make barriers.

Lock someone in place.

Cloaking/hiding your chakra (individual or AoE).

Again, lots of potential.
This is kinda why I made this thread though
It could be a ninja skill class all in its own right
However if tag barriers and chakra  isolation are allowed to be part of this skill set, as well as for lack of a better term  augmentation slots and Bing able to carry the world In a scroll. Along with a kenjutsu, this would make a pritty good ninja look at Tenten- and she only scratched the  surface  Of Fuinjutsu. And how many times can you stack this. It was never shown in naruto but can you seal something that has something sealed in side it?? I don't see why not??
If not what happens to the object that was sealed first?? Is it  destroyed, dose it pop back out?? This is why Fuinjutsu will need strictly defined boundaries that cannot me exceeded.
It should be a tree of its own but I don't think anyone should be able to master it all. It has real applications for every major combat type as a support Jutsu.

This kinda goes off topic for a sec- but I think everyone should only be allowed to pick 2 Majer combat styles-
out of Ninjutsu Taijustu and Bukijutsu(in case you don't know it is all weapons Jutsu such as kenjutsu)
And 1 of the support Jutsu-genjutsu, sensory, or Fuinjutsu

Or 2 support and 1 combat- but only 3 out of the 6
Or all combat

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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2016, 13:02:44 »
---- And how many times can you stack this. It was never shown in naruto but can you seal something that has something sealed in side it?? I don't see why not??
If not what happens to the object that was sealed first?? Is it  destroyed, dose it pop back out?? This is why Fuinjutsu will need strictly defined boundaries that cannot me exceeded.
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For convenience's sake, put a maximum of 3 or 5 jutsu's or weapons in a scroll. (Either, not both) if this system is implemented.

As for sealing a sealed object, what's the use? I really don't see the use other than equipment load (putting all your scrolls in one scroll), which I don't think is going to be in the final build.

As for the unsealed items (that is, emerged from scrolls) - Weapons can be picked up and resealed, depending they're not destroyed otherwise. Jutsu's of course are used and cannot be reclaimed.

Used scrolls can either be reused (but expensive to buy/craft) or not reused (cheap to buy/craft).


This kinda goes off topic for a sec- but I think everyone should only be allowed to pick 2 Majer combat styles-
out of Ninjutsu Taijustu and Bukijutsu(in case you don't know it is all weapons Jutsu such as kenjutsu)
And 1 of the support Jutsu-genjutsu, sensory, or Fuinjutsu

Or 2 support and 1 combat- but only 3 out of the 6
Or all combat


Agreed, but only for Jounin and up. However I support a different view in terms of combat/support:

Combat: Tai-, Nin-, Gen-, and Bukijutsu (different trees for respective weapons, melee only).
Support: Sensory, Medical, Fuuinjutsu, and Summoning (if it's implemented).
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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2016, 13:34:58 »
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As for sealing a sealed object, what's the use? I really don't see the use other than equipment load (putting all your scrolls in one scroll), which I don't think is going to be in the final build.
Fuinjutsu can seal ANYTHING water, fire, lightning, wind, and size doesn't matter all it takes is enough Chakra. And you can put it in anything that can hold chakra. You could seal a lake or a cup of water, rice or a banquet to feed your hole squad. If 3 to 5 objects is all a scroll could hold, and you Realy can't see why you would want to stack scrolls in scrolls, or chakra blades sealed with elements, you aren't thinking tactically about how to use Fuinjutsu.
These are just a few thing I would carry if I was a wind and lightning ninjutsu combat type with Bukijutsu
elements
2Wall of chakra flames
2Puddle of water chakra
Weapons:
15 Shuraken (chakra blade)
Katana with a fire chakra sealed in the blade
10 kuni and 500 feet of razer wire
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Food pills
Med kit
Tent
Sleeping bag
Shovel
10 sealing scrolls
10 Chakra tags

And that's my short list

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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2016, 14:13:32 »
Okay yes, but it can turn out to become too overpowered really quickly.

Example: Combat scroll-

Slot1: Wind jutsu
Slot2: Fire jutsu
Slot3: Secondary Scroll
Slot4: Earth jutsu
Slot5: Water jutsu

Secondary scroll = first.

Rinse and repeat until your enemies lay waste.




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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2016, 14:22:35 »
Okay yes, but it can turn out to become too overpowered really quickly.

Example: Combat scroll-

Slot1: Wind jutsu
Slot2: Fire jutsu
Slot3: Secondary Scroll
Slot4: Earth jutsu
Slot5: Water jutsu

Secondary scroll = first.

Rinse and repeat until your enemies lay waste.
Exactly why I made this thread to discuss how far is too far when it comes to Fuinjutsu.

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Re: Fuinjutsu suggestions and discussion
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2016, 14:35:55 »
Main reason why it should not be possible to seal sealed scrolls into scrolls.

You can only limit yourself then with how many scrolls you can carry by the amount of inventory space you have in your inventory.

That is of course, it that becomes a thing.

Side note: Sealed scrolls should not be stackable. Blank scrolls however, I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be stackable.




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