More ranks

[NinjaMirage]

yes and each range of values is assigned a rank e-s like this

2200-2399    SANINE rare or even forbidden
2000-2199   Class S
1800-1999   Class A
1600-1799   Class B
1400-1599   Class C
1200-1399   Class D
1000-1199   Class E

[Fraudulent]

yes and each range of values is assigned a rank e-s like this

2200-2399    SANINE rare or even forbidden
2000-2199   Class S
1800-1999   Class A
1600-1799   Class B
1400-1599   Class C
1200-1399   Class D
1000-1199   Class E

Your calculations are so wrong.
Yes, every game can assign their own way of measuring ELO, but to go from starter E rank to D rank in just 200 points is absurd. Look at the way I've done it, mine makes sense.

0-1000 - E Rank
1000-1700 - D Rank
1700 - 2500 - C Rank

No these do not correspond with the ranks I posted earlier.

[NinjaMirage]

KAGA IS AN ELECTED POSITION IN THE VILLAGE NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN EARN IN ELO. ASS FOR SANINE THIS WILL PROBABLY ONLY APPLY TO LEGACY PLAYERS.

your stats wont have anything to do with your ELO ranking other than its likely you will likely need to train to a certain level to beat some one of a higher rank.

i added my ideas to incorporate ELO into the chakra control system (STATS) thread in suggestions so i won't do it here.
But basicly i suggested that you must train certain skills before you can advance to the next ELO rank once you beet a number of higher level ninja the results of your training are proven and you rank up giving you better chakra control and stamina.

my question about the whole ELO system is it works great for one on one contests like chess, how do you calculate it for multiple players on a squad?

"First ELO rank"? Are you aware that ELO is the amount of points one has that display skill.
For example someone with 1000-2500 ELO is a good player, 3000+ is advanced.

ELO just shows how good you are.

When it comes to a team, every player has their individual score, and the squad ELO is the total of everyones points.
E.G
Ninja 1 - 600 ELO
Ninja 2 - 900 ELO
Ninja 3 - 1200 ELO

Squad elo = 2700 ELO.

that's great and all but in a elo system points are awarded proportionately to the points value beetin.
if you have a squad of 3 genuine and 1 jonin there will be a uneven division of points
this would almost certainly award more points to the genin then represented by there skill.
and mt numbers were taken directly from a chess book.... not meant to be in game numbers just as an example.

[Nas]

I sincerely hope that Jutsu like Chidori are not going to be attainable early on. Although it is one of the first lightning styles in the Anime (I think) it is still an A-rank technique and should be treated as such. With this, how will rankings correspond with Jutsu?

I'm confused as to why we have the chidori right now - hopefully it's only for testing as the game is still in alpha and would get sealed in an A rank jutsu scroll when the game is fully released.

It was only displayed early on in the anime because Kakashi taught it to Sasuke. Other than that, it's still an A-rank jutsu. In SLO it would take quite some time for someone to learn that technique, and assuming they would be Jonin by that time, they could teach it to a lower rank student. Just like Kakashi did to Sasuke.

Since  its kinda based by ELO...wouldn't it be by your stats instead of your ninja rank....like if you are strong enough you wouldn't need to be Jonin to learn chidori

Right, so assuming that your ELO is high enough to become an A rank shinobi, then theoretically you would be able to learn the Chidori.
That is if we're going by the system where we ignore the ninja ranks (genin, chunin etc.) and just skip to grades. But I think it would be better if techniques are rank locked. So you'll have to be a Jonin to be able to use Chidori.

So really, all you'll have to do is take the exam in order to learn the technique.


Academy Student - 0 ELO (just started).
Genin - 500 ELO.
Chunin - 1000 ELO.
Jonin - 3000 ELO.
Elite Jonin - 7500 ELO.
ANBU - 12000 ELO.
Sannin - 25000 ELO.
Kage - 50000 ELO.

This could also work for appointing a Kage. Instead of just doing a community poll or whatever, the first person to reach Kage ELO would become the Kage of their village. I think this would be good because it gives everyone an equal chance and I can't exactly recall but I think a post is floating around somewhere saying how appointing a Kage shouldn't be rushed and only those who deserve it would take the position. Not only that but someone with Kage ELO would be a shinobi that knows a lot of powerful techniques - just like in the anime.

This is why I think my system would be perfect for this.

See "realistically" this wouldn't work by ninja rank, unless it's based on like a village system. Depending on how the game works some people might not want to rank up and just stay chunnin 4eva lol.

Plus how would this system work for rogues ninjas or ANBU etc

[NinjaMirage]

it works fine for rogues in fact if it benefits them greatly one or 2 ninja attack a squad of 4-3 genin and 1 jonin.
one traps the jonin in a ambush. the other picks off the genin then they double up on the jonin. they will jump in points lie crazy for defeating a elo score almost 2 times more then theres. and not because of skill.

conversely if the jonin manages to beet the 2 ninja then the squad of 4 would split the points for beating only 1/2 there total points everyone is in the hospital now and all they got out of it was 1 point because the system says it should have bin easy.

[Fraudulent]

See "realistically" this wouldn't work by ninja rank, unless it's based on like a village system. Depending on how the game works some people might not want to rank up and just stay chunnin 4eva lol.

Plus how would this system work for rogues ninjas or ANBU etc

Right, well if we go by my system then they can choose to stay a Chunin forever, but they won't be able to learn Jonin level techniques due to having an insufficient rank.

In regards to rogue ninja, they would use the same system as the normal ninja. They would just be [ninja rank]level rogue ninja.
For example:
Jonin level Rogue Ninja. Like Zabuza.

it works fine for rogues in fact if it benefits them greatly one or 2 ninja attack a squad of 4-3 genin and 1 jonin.
one traps the jonin in a ambush. the other picks off the genin then they double up on the jonin. they will jump in points lie crazy for defeating a elo score almost 2 times more then theres. and not because of skill.

I can see where you're coming from, but actually it all depends on the rank the ninja's had when you killed them.

Example:
Jonin rogue kills a Genin = +10 ELO
Jonin rogue kills a Chunin = +30 ELO
Jonin rogue kills a Jonin = + 100 ELO

The squad ELO has no influence over the amount you'll be receiving for killing them.

and not because of skill.

ELO is literally skill. If you have a high ELO it means you're good in combat and have defeated a good amount of enemies. Of-course you should glorify shinobi with high ELO because they have skill.

[Nas]

So what would really be the point of elo except for braging rights if the jutsus are based on rank..
It would be like finding a forbidden scroll at chunnin but can't use it cause your not jounin? Keeping in mind you would probably need to be really strong to find forbidden scrolls and that.

[NinjaMirage]

I can see where you're coming from, but actually it all depends on the rank the ninja's had when you killed them.

Example:
Jonin rogue kills a Genin = +10 ELO
Jonin rogue kills a Chunin = +30 ELO
Jonin rogue kills a Jonin = + 100 ELO

The squad ELO has no influence over the amount you'll be receiving for killing them.

this is going to lead to so muck kill sniping.
there will be no teem work it will end up every man for them self trying to get the last hit in. this is a game killer for me.

[Fraudulent]

I can see where you're coming from, but actually it all depends on the rank the ninja's had when you killed them.

Example:
Jonin rogue kills a Genin = +10 ELO
Jonin rogue kills a Chunin = +30 ELO
Jonin rogue kills a Jonin = + 100 ELO

The squad ELO has no influence over the amount you'll be receiving for killing them.

this is going to lead to so muck kill sniping.

What would be the point in high level ninja spam killing lower ranks? It's just a waste of time for such little ELO.

[America]

I can see where you're coming from, but actually it all depends on the rank the ninja's had when you killed them.

Example:
Jonin rogue kills a Genin = +10 ELO
Jonin rogue kills a Chunin = +30 ELO
Jonin rogue kills a Jonin = + 100 ELO

The squad ELO has no influence over the amount you'll be receiving for killing them.

this is going to lead to so muck kill sniping.

What would be the point in high level ninja spam killing lower ranks? It's just a waste of time for such little ELO.

Some people like to win even if there is little reward. It's like twinks in WoW

[Fraudulent]

Some people like to win even if there is little reward. It's like twinks in WoW

Right, but eventually this will get boring and stupid and people would stop doing it. Besides this can only happen in the non-safety zones.

[NinjaMirage]

So what would really be the point of elo except for braging rights if the jutsus are based on rank..
It would be like finding a forbidden scroll at chunnin but can't use it cause your not jounin? Keeping in mind you would probably need to be really strong to find forbidden scrolls and that.

nass jutsu is based on ELO rank not chunin or jonin you can be a s-ranked ninja but only a village genin.

[NinjaMirage]

I can see where you're coming from, but actually it all depends on the rank the ninja's had when you killed them.

Example:
Jonin rogue kills a Genin = +10 ELO
Jonin rogue kills a Chunin = +30 ELO
Jonin rogue kills a Jonin = + 100 ELO

The squad ELO has no influence over the amount you'll be receiving for killing them.

this is going to lead to so muck kill sniping.

What would be the point in high level ninja spam killing lower ranks? It's just a waste of time for such little ELO.

no your thinking of it backwards...your in a squad your a b-rank and all you need is this c-rank kill to get to a-rank. you whittle the guy down to the point that all you need is a hit with a kunie- the guy starts to run away and a e-rank in your squad throws his kunai and kills him. now...his score jumps like crazy...this is called kill sniping.

If your training genin as a jonin this is going to happen. and it wouldn't be bad except your going to have people running around with out the skill there elo indicates. using jutsu they haven't really earned.

this is why i suggested that there needs to be some kind of training before you can reach next ELO rank-tree climb walk on water,change in nature training- something before you can reach the next ELO rank

but this still won't stop some low ranking rouge from running by and stealing your kill then running away.

[Fraudulent]

I can see where you're coming from, but actually it all depends on the rank the ninja's had when you killed them.

Example:
Jonin rogue kills a Genin = +10 ELO
Jonin rogue kills a Chunin = +30 ELO
Jonin rogue kills a Jonin = + 100 ELO

The squad ELO has no influence over the amount you'll be receiving for killing them.

this is going to lead to so muck kill sniping.

What would be the point in high level ninja spam killing lower ranks? It's just a waste of time for such little ELO.

no your thinking of it backwards...your in a squad your a b-rank and all you need is this c-rank kill to get to a-rank. you whittle the guy down to the point that all you need is a hit with a kunie- the guy starts to run away and a e-rank in your squad throws his kunai and kills him. now...his score jumps like crazy...this is called kill sniping.

If your training genin as a jonin this is going to happen. and it wouldn't be bad except your going to have people running around with out the skill there elo indicates. using jutsu they haven't really earned.

The ELO would be shared evenly between all members, since its a squad and they share the same mission. If they're just wandering around then yeah, the person who get's the kill will have all the ELO. But then again, let's not forget that it takes time and quite a few skill points to reach another rank, so getting 1-2 kills on a high rank wouldn't change much.

[Nas]

So what would really be the point of elo except for braging rights if the jutsus are based on rank..
It would be like finding a forbidden scroll at chunnin but can't use it cause your not jounin? Keeping in mind you would probably need to be really strong to find forbidden scrolls and that.

nass jutsu is based on ELO rank not chunin or jonin you can be a s-ranked ninja but only a village genin.

Yea that's what I'm trying to say