General discussion

[Reminance]

My two cents on this here, I don't think that is true. I mean take Roguhanta and Katakiuchi for example, they've been around for a long time and continue to grow. Why would they all of a sudden not hold out? Orgs created before the release have a headstart on orgs that will be created after the release as they will be more well known and have more members early on in the game.

For the same reason why clans created a long time ago tend to prosper more than clans created now, they've simply been around long enough to gain a certain reputation amongst the community.

Sure, not every org created now will last but in terms of an org like Yurei which has organisations like Katakiuchi and Roguhanta with them, chances are they're gonna be around for a while.

This is something I agree with.
When I made Roguhanta with json and remi a long time ago, we started growing and I'm pretty sure we wont suddenly stop.

Indeed, why would we?

[Tsunayoshi]

@Tsunayoshi Unlikely other players, my character won't resemble me from real life. He will be cunning, pride full, crazy, doing crimes for his own amusement and would do anything to reach his goals except destroying his honor.
This has nothing to do with how I am in real life. I like Kirishima, I am proud of being a Kirishima and I will be loyal to this clan to the end. What I've done for it, I will continue doing even after the game will be full released, but this doesn't change the fact that my character won't care about the clan or it's eventually helpless members who could use him in any way. In game, I won't do anything for the clan because this is how my character will be, he won't favor or hate any clan as he won't agree with the families superiority.

If I would make my character and play with it as I am in real life, I would probably be in a village, working at Mars's Ramen and advising the Kage.

If you don't want to believe me, it's not my problem, it won't affect anything at all. I did my duty answering to your question, it's not my duty to prove my answer.
Also, only because I am more likely to betray my clan, it won't mean that I will be loyal with my life to an organization, unless I find it worthy.

I don't know where your hate towards me comes from, but please try to abstain from provoking me with useless pokes.

I took the duty of creating the clan thread because there was no one else at that moment active enough to do so, as Kai was just getting his Red Name and he was getting other responsibilities. So no, not many others could have taken that role. And I haven't put that much effort in it, most of the effort came from @m4r1us . And I don't remember to ever advertise the clan, though.

Hmm, see I don't get how Real life came in the picture here, but never mind that.

I've got no beef w you, just questioned you. Aight, you've made clear that you'd betray your clan just like that without any further feels. End of discussion.

[Manuster]

fuck mars

implying you could fit your dick in a celestial body that weighs 6.39 × 10^23 kg with a radius of 2,106 miles

there are limits to the things we can do

xDDDDDDD +rep

Found somthing cool everyone should see... It's kinda a let down because it doesn't finish... But it's Realy cool...

haven't watched bleach, but this is very good for the hype

[Nova]

Welcome to SLO.

I'm the meme of the project, you can call me either Shitposter/Postwhore or Orgwhore (in reality I'm both)*.

FTFY.

Glad to see everyone is advertising the forum in such a good way. /s

Pfft. No matter the insults you throw.

They won't sting cause they're coming from you.

@Manuster
Is it really an insult when I'm just naming your known titles on the forum?
It's nothing new.
If you feel like it's an insult, maybe that's a sign for you to change your behavior for the better.

[Whatasnipe]

Welcome to SLO.

I'm the meme of the project, you can call me either Shitposter/Postwhore or Orgwhore (in reality I'm both)*.

FTFY.

Glad to see everyone is advertising the forum in such a good way. /s

Pfft. No matter the insults you throw.

They won't sting cause they're coming from you.

@Manuster
Is it really an insult when I'm just naming your known titles on the forum?
It's nothing new.
If you feel like it's an insult, maybe that's a sign for you to change your behavior for the better.

[waly206]

Ooh, I like the first idea, though making sure both their missions actually have relevance to an overarching story would require a lot of planning ahead of time.

He also sucked at being a GM because the missions were boring as hell. BUt I see your point. It all depends how seriously  these guys take the game or not.

And the only reason I played a retarded anthromorphic frog the last time because you, Elliot and GM's first wife were being retarded the first time campaign and I was the only one actually trying to roleplay. Then Elliot got mad because he couldn't see why I my purely good paladin was duty bound to kill his civilian-massacring character of pure evil .

You don't have to get angry, those people don't exist anymore.

Haha, you make it sound like we murdered them and buried their bodies somewhere XD
And I do always sound angry on the internet apparently. Sorry, Drew...

Yeah when I saw that I was like

Careful. She never said we DIDN'T do just that. XD

You referenced Community.  You may live XD
Don't worry, we don't actually murder the roleplaying groups that displease us XD

Well SHE just doesn't like to get her hands dirty.

[Dagerth]

Ooh, I like the first idea, though making sure both their missions actually have relevance to an overarching story would require a lot of planning ahead of time.

He also sucked at being a GM because the missions were boring as hell. BUt I see your point. It all depends how seriously  these guys take the game or not.

And the only reason I played a retarded anthromorphic frog the last time because you, Elliot and GM's first wife were being retarded the first time campaign and I was the only one actually trying to roleplay. Then Elliot got mad because he couldn't see why I my purely good paladin was duty bound to kill his civilian-massacring character of pure evil .

You don't have to get angry, those people don't exist anymore.

Haha, you make it sound like we murdered them and buried their bodies somewhere XD
And I do always sound angry on the internet apparently. Sorry, Drew...

Yeah when I saw that I was like

Careful. She never said we DIDN'T do just that. XD

You referenced Community.  You may live XD
Don't worry, we don't actually murder the roleplaying groups that displease us XD

Well SHE just doesn't like to get her hands dirty.

Haha, no we don't kill. We just play rough. Now there HAS been the occasional civilian casualty, but let's skip the small details

[Zama]

inb4 SLO now has murderers

[Whatasnipe]

We'll be fine if we stay out of the perma-death zones

[America]

@America We are just a bunch of members who really trust each other and we "signed a treaty" (by choosing to join the organization) to always help one another and to never leave this... brotherhood.

What happens when Shivraj asks the Yurei to help get rid of the Roguhunta that have been pursuing him for awhile?

So basically, what you've done is sign a non-aggression treaty with all the leading members of the Yurei-affiliated organizations and not tell anyone about it until now?

That is my main irk with your organization(or alliance, whatever it is.)

@America I don't see why other members would look up to this organization, or why they would aspire to become part of it or why they would care about it.

People tend to gravitate towards where power is located; in this case, an organization with the leaders of the most popular organizations in it.

[Konohuro]

@America We are just a bunch of members who really trust each other and we "signed a treaty" (by choosing to join the organization) to always help one another and to never leave this... brotherhood.

What happens when Shivraj asks the Yurei to help get rid of the Roguhunta that have been pursuing him for awhile?

One does not simply take the decision to be helped by others. "Things will be decided after the 10 have voted on it."
There is no treaty between Kata and Rogu or any other organizations, blood will be shed between the two. Yurei just forbids Remi to kill Ken, Shivraj or any other member within Yurei, or vice-versa. "whatever people do in their spare time (most of the time) is all up to them."

So basically, what you've done is sign a non-aggression treaty with all the leading members of the Yurei-affiliated organizations and not tell anyone about it until now?

Eh, how many times will we have to repeat it until people will understand it. I think we said enough times that within this organization, it is all about trust.
Now, what do people understand by trust? Because what I understand, is that you can be sure that someone will mean no harm to you, nor will he do something against your will. How haven't we said that it's a non-aggresive treaty between ourselves, when we said that we trust everybody in Yurei as we trust ourselves? Doesn't this mean, we won't stab each other in the back?

@America I don't see why other members would look up to this organization, or why they would aspire to become part of it or why they would care about it.

People tend to gravitate towards where power is located; in this case, an organization with the leaders of the most popular organizations in it.

This is really not our problem. It's not our fault that we were the first on forum so we were the first to create organization that the followers chose to join.
Basically, you are accusing us for creating the organizations of our dreams (Kata, Rogu etc.), that were pleasant to other members... Popularity was not something that we chose, and it's not like we could have avoided it.



And to make it clear, our organizations have nothing to do with what we decided to do between the Yurei. I lead Onmitsukido, whose members are unknown. It would be nothing that could stop me from ordering to one of my men to kill Nova. And it's not even against the rules. But then again, it all summarizes to trust.

[Nova]

You're better off looking at Yürei as some sort of crew, rather than comparing it to other organisations.
It's just a bunch of Shinobi banded together under one name that are able to trust each other doesn't matter what affiliation.
There's no "treaty" between Roguhanta or Katakiuchi or any other organisation in any way, Kata members can still hunt roguhanta members and vice versa, the only restriction is Yürei members can't kill other Yürei members.

And as Konohuro had said, he can't kill me however he could order someone else to kill me which would be a shame but it's allowed.
It all comes down to trust, in the end I could be mistaken to have trusted someone, but you can't know that for sure.

[waly206]

Ooh, I like the first idea, though making sure both their missions actually have relevance to an overarching story would require a lot of planning ahead of time.

He also sucked at being a GM because the missions were boring as hell. BUt I see your point. It all depends how seriously  these guys take the game or not.

And the only reason I played a retarded anthromorphic frog the last time because you, Elliot and GM's first wife were being retarded the first time campaign and I was the only one actually trying to roleplay. Then Elliot got mad because he couldn't see why I my purely good paladin was duty bound to kill his civilian-massacring character of pure evil .

You don't have to get angry, those people don't exist anymore.

Haha, you make it sound like we murdered them and buried their bodies somewhere XD
And I do always sound angry on the internet apparently. Sorry, Drew...

Yeah when I saw that I was like

Careful. She never said we DIDN'T do just that. XD

You referenced Community.  You may live XD
Don't worry, we don't actually murder the roleplaying groups that displease us XD

Well SHE just doesn't like to get her hands dirty.

Haha, no we don't kill. We just play rough. Now there HAS been the occasional civilian casualty, but let's skip the small details

XD

[America]

@America We are just a bunch of members who really trust each other and we "signed a treaty" (by choosing to join the organization) to always help one another and to never leave this... brotherhood.

What happens when Shivraj asks the Yurei to help get rid of the Roguhunta that have been pursuing him for awhile?

One does not simply take the decision to be helped by others. "Things will be decided after the 10 have voted on it."
There is no treaty between Kata and Rogu or any other organizations, blood will be shed between the two. Yurei just forbids Remi to kill Ken, Shivraj or any other member within Yurei, or vice-versa. "whatever people do in their spare time (most of the time) is all up to them."

What I am trying to say here is that members of Roguhunta won't be happy when you refuse to attack the leaders of Katakiuchi because you are buddy-buddy with them. The goal is to capture rogues, and you aren't taking it very seriously.

Eh, how many times will we have to repeat it until people will understand it. I think we said enough times that within this organization, it is all about trust.

It doesn't seem like trust when you wait to vote instead of just helping them out.


I will concede the point that this is more of a friendship circle than an organization, and it doesn't follow the basics of the "top ten elite super shinobi god" thing.

However, it does come across as a "sit on Mount Olympus drinking nectar while laughing at the zoo of plebs down below"

[Ken]

@America We are just a bunch of members who really trust each other and we "signed a treaty" (by choosing to join the organization) to always help one another and to never leave this... brotherhood.

What happens when Shivraj asks the Yurei to help get rid of the Roguhunta that have been pursuing him for awhile?

One does not simply take the decision to be helped by others. "Things will be decided after the 10 have voted on it."
There is no treaty between Kata and Rogu or any other organizations, blood will be shed between the two. Yurei just forbids Remi to kill Ken, Shivraj or any other member within Yurei, or vice-versa. "whatever people do in their spare time (most of the time) is all up to them."

What I am trying to say here is that members of Roguhunta won't be happy when you refuse to attack the leaders of Katakiuchi because you are buddy-buddy with them. The goal is to capture rogues, and you aren't taking it very seriously.

Eh, how many times will we have to repeat it until people will understand it. I think we said enough times that within this organization, it is all about trust.

It doesn't seem like trust when you wait to vote instead of just helping them out.


I will concede the point that this is more of a friendship circle than an organization, and it doesn't follow the basics of the "top ten elite super shinobi god" thing.

However, it does come across as a "sit on Mount Olympus drinking nectar while laughing at the zoo of plebs down below"

Naaaaah.