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My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« on: July 18, 2015, 19:58:50 »
My opinion: The map is very vast and that's great but maybe it could have a forest in a certain area where we can regain chakra. Like giant trees to hide in. I really like how the "God's Testicle" (Poorly named in my opinion) is a one hit kill jutsu but takes a lot of chakra. That is a good balance so people like @Devilfox don't abuse it. Though the drain rate seems fast, people have to take into consideration that even in the anime, Kakashi could only use Chidori 2-3 times till he used up all his chakra. I also noticed the character could do with some work, seeing as the shoulders are a little pointed though I don't think it is necessary seeing that it is a temp model.

My suggestions: Maybe add in some weak jutsu. They don't have to look so fancy. Also, though I said the drain rate for the chakra was well balanced in "My opinion", I do think for Fire Ball it could be a little slower as the Fire Ball jutsu is a low ranking jutsu. Either that or make the recharge rate a little faster, or maybe when we stand still we regain chakra faster than if we was moving around. As I mentioned in opinion, we could do with more hiding places to regain chakra.

My questions:
Why does the game run more slower in this update than the one before?
Why wasn't this released to Donators for a week or so before being released publicly?
Why have we had no small village buildings put into the map yet?
Why have the accent letters been added to the games alphabet yet?
Is this update counted as the DM update?

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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2015, 21:27:16 »
A fine recap of what has occured. Love the mention :) Abuse is the right word here. It seems the God jutsu has slightly more range than the chidori, so just activating the jutsu seals up to ...201 leaving only the 5 to activated it and then instakilling anyone without any repercussions seems indeed out of balance.
I have however heard rumors that several jutsu might be removed from the game, including this one. We stand by for official commentary on this.

I myself think the chakra system has to be reworked, but we have a different topic for that so I'll comment on it no further here.

Furthermore, I'd like to add that for a new release this was a great and fun experience, but it is obvious there is work to be done.

I'll close off by saying that Vreg has done a great job creating/editing this game, and I look forward to the next updates/patches/fixes/implementations/reworks/etc/etc/etc/etc.
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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2015, 22:16:40 »
i agree with every you said, except the question "Why wasn't this released to Donators for a week or so before being released publicly?" for obvious reasons lol. Also @Devilfox  i believe all the jutsu's will be reworked so you could say they're going to be taken out the game, and i don't think he needs to add another weak jutsu because the values are still being tested as it stands.
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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2015, 22:56:38 »
A fine recap of what has occured. Love the mention :) Abuse is the right word here. It seems the God jutsu has slightly more range than the chidori, so just activating the jutsu seals up to ...201 leaving only the 5 to activated it and then instakilling anyone without any repercussions seems indeed out of balance.
I have however heard rumors that several jutsu might be removed from the game, including this one. We stand by for official commentary on this.

I myself think the chakra system has to be reworked, but we have a different topic for that so I'll comment on it no further here.

Furthermore, I'd like to add that for a new release this was a great and fun experience, but it is obvious there is work to be done.

I'll close off by saying that Vreg has done a great job creating/editing this game, and I look forward to the next updates/patches/fixes/implementations/reworks/etc/etc/etc/etc.
It's rare to have someone appear and contribute soon after they join, I agree with what you said. Nice idea.

and @limits , many people donate as they're told that they will get early access to versions. So far we haven't had donator perks for about a year.
I'm personally not bothered, though you have to realize that donators are the main funders of SLO and you need to give people a reason to donate.
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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2015, 23:28:50 »
@Mars I understand that mars, i wouldn't have been bothered if it were planned from the start, but since the update was announced i was on everyday checking(which was around 4 weeks), then i heard we had to wait another week, kinda annoyed, but i do agree that donators are the main funders and they do need an incentive to donate.
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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2015, 06:24:56 »
I was thinking maybe it would be nice to have a chakra regaining mode. Where basically the character just sits down and regains chakra at a higher rate, without being able to do damage, move etc etc.

Something weird that happened to me, I don't know about the rest, is that if I run while casting a Chidori, hold the Chidori for a while and then Use it and completely stop running, my chakra would still be getting lower and lower, pretty much until it hits zero. I don't know if that's supposed to happen, or if it is just me... But it doesn't look right. Does it normally keep draining chakra even after I stop doing anything/

Also the addition of a stamina bar would be great because I think the biggest reason people feel chakra is too low is because chakra is consumed for whatever you do. Running, jumping and dodging should all consume Stamina instead. While chakra should only be consumed by Jutsus, and maybe that doube jump feature as well.
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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2015, 10:45:47 »
My opinion: The map is very vast and that's great but maybe it could have a forest in a certain area where we can regain chakra. Like giant trees to hide in. I really like how the "God's Testicle" (Poorly named in my opinion) is a one hit kill jutsu but takes a lot of chakra. That is a good balance so people like @Devilfox don't abuse it. Though the drain rate seems fast, people have to take into consideration that even in the anime, Kakashi could only use Chidori 2-3 times till he used up all his chakra. I also noticed the character could do with some work, seeing as the shoulders are a little pointed though I don't think it is necessary seeing that it is a temp model.

My suggestions: Maybe add in some weak jutsu. They don't have to look so fancy. Also, though I said the drain rate for the chakra was well balanced in "My opinion", I do think for Fire Ball it could be a little slower as the Fire Ball jutsu is a low ranking jutsu. Either that or make the recharge rate a little faster, or maybe when we stand still we regain chakra faster than if we was moving around. As I mentioned in opinion, we could do with more hiding places to regain chakra.

My questions:
Why does the game run more slower in this update than the one before?
Why wasn't this released to Donators for a week or so before being released publicly?
Why have we had no small village buildings put into the map yet?
Why have the accent letters been added to the games alphabet yet?
Is this update counted as the DM update?


1. The game runs slower because of an inefficient algorithm which causes a lot of network lag and CPU overhead when a lot of people are online, this will be resolved in 1.0.8.1. This is the reason why everyone was lagging and having low FPS.

2. Because we made everyone wait more than expected.

3. That will be an early donator release in the near future.

4. Because the current SLO font does not support it, we'll change fonts in the near future.
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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2015, 10:58:44 »
You forgot question number 5, but i'll answer that, Basically, The FT version is gonna be slowly transformed into DM with each update, so we're one step closer to DM! so to answer your fifth question, 1.0.8 does NOT count as the DM update, but it added many features that gives us an idea of what DM will be like! so cheers! things that the DM will have but the current version doesn't have are a lot, like servers for each game mode (?) new and better jutsus, Taijutsu, better algorithms that make the game run smoothly, advanced graphic settings, etc., etc.

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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2015, 11:44:23 »
You forgot question number 5, but i'll answer that, Basically, The FT version is gonna be slowly transformed into DM with each update, so we're one step closer to DM! so to answer your fifth question, 1.0.8 does NOT count as the DM update, but it added many features that gives us an idea of what DM will be like! so cheers! things that the DM will have but the current version doesn't have are a lot, like servers for each game mode (?) new and better jutsus, Taijutsu, better algorithms that make the game run smoothly, advanced graphic settings, etc., etc.

P.S. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong @everyone.
Oh yeah and this is just one step closer to DM, not actual DM.
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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2015, 16:02:27 »
Vreg, I really do think that you should make a map very similar to the forest of death. Not to cramped with huge trees but not to open as well. Maybe you can consider
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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2015, 16:57:19 »
@StrawHatSeyi I think you're missing the sole purpose of this update tbf, really it was just to test hp/chakra/death, the kakashi models and same map could have still been used even regardless >_> (i'd also like a map like the forest of death aswell tho haha but priorities come first)
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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2015, 17:43:07 »
Vreg, I really do think that you should make a map very similar to the forest of death. Not to cramped with huge trees but not to open as well. Maybe you can consider
As limits said, priorities. But this would be amazing if the team ever got the time.
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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2015, 20:29:25 »
Jump should consume chakra only when you detach from the ground. At the moment, chakra is drain even when you are in mid air, when in fact- in my opinion- chakra should be spent only when you launch, after this you don't use chakra anymore.


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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2015, 03:16:37 »
Jump should consume chakra only when you detach from the ground. At the moment, chakra is drain even when you are in mid air, when in fact- in my opinion- chakra should be spent only when you launch, after this you don't use chakra anymore.
Actually jump only consumes chakra when you jump, what you're seeing in the chakra bar is the linear decreasing of that original consumption. It doesn't go from 1000 to 950 instantly, it builds down from 1000 to 950 in linear fashion.
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Re: My thoughts on the 1.0.8 release.
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2015, 19:57:20 »
Jump should consume chakra only when you detach from the ground. At the moment, chakra is drain even when you are in mid air, when in fact- in my opinion- chakra should be spent only when you launch, after this you don't use chakra anymore.
Actually jump only consumes chakra when you jump, what you're seeing in the chakra bar is the linear decreasing of that original consumption. It doesn't go from 1000 to 950 instantly, it builds down from 1000 to 950 in linear fashion.

But something contradicts. If I do a normal jump on a flat surface, the chakra decreases like you said but If I jump on a sloped area like a mountain: from the bottom to the pick, the chakra will stop decreasing when I land which means it stops faster. But I may be wrong, I haven't tried it repeatedly to confirm this.


 

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