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Title: Official Organizations
Post by: StrawHatSeyi on May 27, 2015, 11:53:54
There are many organizations as it it, and I know the number of organizations will keep growing. So, to stop this over population of orgs. There should be a list of official organisation and unofficial. Official orgs are the pegs with 10 numbers or more. Unofficial are the ones with less that 10. This will sieve out all the dead orgs.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Konohuro on May 27, 2015, 12:08:34
I can say that Jyuunishin is "more official" than Kami or others as it has 100% active members even if it has only 3 pages. It is an organization that doesn't need 100 pages as it has only a few available seats. Quality=quantity as important(or official, how you like to call it)=quality, my friend.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: StrawHatSeyi on May 27, 2015, 13:34:28
@Konohuro  , you don't get it. It doesn't matter about forum posts or active members. I'm talking about, if there are 20 orgs that have been dead and/or not active for a year, they are not official. I'm talking about active orgs, not active members
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Mars on May 27, 2015, 13:38:11
So you're saying if people don't want to join an org, that org is dead?
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Kayleb on May 27, 2015, 17:20:03
I see where Seyi is coming from, but I don't completely agree with your idea of squad members. It shouldn't matter whether the org is dead or not, it's still an org. That organisation can be made more active or less active whenever the people in it see fit. If the five best players in the game decided to make an organisation together and managed to destroy the other organisations, by your logic it doesn't matter, as they've only got 5 members, even if they're one of the strongest organisations in the game. So no, I don't think that organisations should be confirmed "dead" at any point, it's up to the people inside them to do what they want in them.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: rayzote on May 27, 2015, 18:01:28
Why would you do that, the members of an organization can increase in numbers when DM comes out. This would only be something inforum.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: StrawHatSeyi on May 27, 2015, 18:17:21
So you're saying if people don't want to join an org, that org is dead?
No mars, it means that org is unofficial

(http://i.imgur.com/8bI8v2h.jpg)

The top option will contain all orgs that are official, active and doing well.
The bottom one will contain all the orgs starting out or unofficial (meaning less than 10 members, unactive)
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Konohuro on May 27, 2015, 19:05:25
So... for e.g. my guild: Yokubo.
It will be classified as unofficial. The leader and it's members are inactive except me, the one that has the permission to recruit new members. Besides the fact that our org. is small, any chance of getting new people will be taken from us because we are classified as unofficial and none will check those therads. Does this seem fair?
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Mars on May 27, 2015, 19:27:21
So... for e.g. my guild: Yokubo.
It will be classified as unofficial. The leader and it's members are inactive except me, the one that has the permission to recruit new members. Besides the fact that our org. is small, any chance of getting new people will be taken from us because we are classified as unofficial and none will check those therads. Does this seem fair?
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: StrawHatSeyi on May 27, 2015, 20:01:23
You will still be an organization kono obviously. But you have to accept the fact that it isn't that active. You have tht power to recruit members, so when you get above 10 the. It will be official. My opinions Soz for any offence
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Konohuro on May 27, 2015, 20:10:47
Not that I am hurt or something, but I don't see the point of this.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: StrawHatSeyi on May 27, 2015, 20:21:23
It separates the active orgs from the orgs that aren't active or even dead. And from the people that only came on came on forums once and made an org.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Mars on May 27, 2015, 22:40:34
It separates the active orgs from the orgs that aren't active or even dead. And from the people that only came on came on forums once and made an org.
That's different.
Maybe if all members were inactive for 1 year+, maybe this might be an acceptable idea.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: json243 on May 27, 2015, 22:53:38
Well, thats going to be hard for orgs such as 11 ronin and such where there are only 11 people. You need to rethink this seyi. Its activeness, not amount of people.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: StrawHatSeyi on May 27, 2015, 23:46:17
True json, good point
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Shivraj on May 28, 2015, 07:55:53
This is a bad idea XD as people won't join the orgs that are more in need of members than the big org's XD and new orgs won't be able to get members.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: jcryer on May 28, 2015, 08:10:55
We have the split between active and inactive already. Just look at the org threads - the most actively posted on are the ones at the top. I know this is quite obvious, but I think that's enough of a split. No need to further segregate the orgs.

Also, if an organisation becomes very active and moves to the active section of the orgs (this is in your idea), the global mods would have a lot more work to do to keep checking whether they are active, and then moving orgs all over the place. Small point, but I thought it should be brought up.

Just my thoughts on this.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Uzumaki Hari on May 31, 2015, 12:41:23
I can say that Jyuunishin is "more official" than Kami or others as it has 100% active members even if it has only 3 pages. It is an organization that doesn't need 100 pages as it has only a few available seats. Quality=quantity as important(or official, how you like to call it)=quality, my friend.
Thank You for you kind words about our organization......
btw it seems like a fair idea! i am in support of your thoughts that only the orgs with 10 or more members will be considered as official
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: ParadoxRonin on June 09, 2015, 08:43:41
I can say that Jyuunishin is "more official" than Kami or others as it has 100% active members even if it has only 3 pages. It is an organization that doesn't need 100 pages as it has only a few available seats. Quality=quantity as important(or official, how you like to call it)=quality, my friend.
Thank You for you kind words about our organization......
btw it seems like a fair idea! i am in support of your thoughts that only the orgs with 10 or more members will be considered as official
but what is the ture idea of an active org here because people can be gone a long amounts of time alot.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: granit on June 09, 2015, 13:39:12
We have the split between active and inactive already. Just look at the org threads - the most actively posted on are the ones at the top. I know this is quite obvious, but I think that's enough of a split. No need to further segregate the orgs.

Also, if an organisation becomes very active and moves to the active section of the orgs (this is in your idea), the global mods would have a lot more work to do to keep checking whether they are active, and then moving orgs all over the place. Small point, but I thought it should be brought up.

Just my thoughts on this.

I don't think everybody will enter the forum , and I'm pretty sure that he was talking about the game.


Also , it doesn't have to be numbers , it can be activity as well.

I can say that Jyuunishin is "more official" than Kami or others as it has 100% active members even if it has only 3 pages. It is an organization that doesn't need 100 pages as it has only a few available seats. Quality=quantity as important(or official, how you like to call it)=quality, my friend.

Just seen this.
Jyuunishin had only 10 available seats to begin with , so probably that's why it doesn't have almost any available seats with only 3 pages.
Btw Kami may not have 100% active members , but it's the 2nd biggest org here , and it doesn't need to make it's members feel "godlike".
This describes it best:

http://www.shinobilifeonline.com/index.php/topic,1418.msg17237.html#msg17237


Sorry for being off-topic.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Konohuro on June 09, 2015, 15:28:49
We have the split between active and inactive already. Just look at the org threads - the most actively posted on are the ones at the top. I know this is quite obvious, but I think that's enough of a split. No need to further segregate the orgs.

Also, if an organisation becomes very active and moves to the active section of the orgs (this is in your idea), the global mods would have a lot more work to do to keep checking whether they are active, and then moving orgs all over the place. Small point, but I thought it should be brought up.

Just my thoughts on this.

I don't think everybody will enter the forum , and I'm pretty sure that he was talking about the game.


Also , it doesn't have to be numbers , it can be activity as well.

I can say that Jyuunishin is "more official" than Kami or others as it has 100% active members even if it has only 3 pages. It is an organization that doesn't need 100 pages as it has only a few available seats. Quality=quantity as important(or official, how you like to call it)=quality, my friend.

Just seen this.
Jyuunishin had only 10 available seats to begin with , so probably that's why it doesn't have almost any available seats with only 3 pages.
Btw Kami may not have 100% active members , but it's the 2nd biggest org here , and it doesn't need to make it's members feel "godlike".
This describes it best:

http://www.shinobilifeonline.com/index.php/topic,1418.msg17237.html#msg17237


Sorry for being off-topic.


Why can't a Kami get out of his body for a second and have an objective perspective?
Why would an organization be official? Because it's the biggest organization in the game? Or because the activity of it's members it's not overcome by any other organization that exists?

"Btw Kami may not have 100% active members , but it's the 2nd biggest org here , and it doesn't need to make it's members feel "godlike"."

Your pride is nothing. You're arrogant for what? Because your organization is numerous, what is your merit in this? You consider yourself superior to other organizations because you are many??? Oh come on, the numbers are just numbers; numbers of others don't make you better in anyway.
If a stupid joins the biggest organization from the forum, he automatically becomes a..."kami" besides the others? I would suggest you to think again. You will not become any better by being part of an organization - being it big or small- nor does that organization become better by having you. Always the individuals meter in a group. Those who become known will drag the organization with them in the light of the stage; only the individuals not all it's members. (I don't addres only to you, granit, I am saying this to any self-conceined Kami)


EDIT: I appologise for the last part, I lost my temper for a moment. I have a kind of respect for some of the Kami Senshi members, even for ones that I addressed to. You are one of them, granit. But what I said in the last part is truly what I think and I will not take my words back. You must stop thinking like: There is Kami and the rest of the world. Because, trust me, you are weak at the moment, and I know what I am saying... we are many.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: json243 on June 09, 2015, 18:03:49
*Drop Mic
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Mars on June 09, 2015, 18:36:26
konohuro just slayed this dumb idea.
someone close this thread
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: granit on June 09, 2015, 22:13:44
We have the split between active and inactive already. Just look at the org threads - the most actively posted on are the ones at the top. I know this is quite obvious, but I think that's enough of a split. No need to further segregate the orgs.

Also, if an organisation becomes very active and moves to the active section of the orgs (this is in your idea), the global mods would have a lot more work to do to keep checking whether they are active, and then moving orgs all over the place. Small point, but I thought it should be brought up.

Just my thoughts on this.

I don't think everybody will enter the forum , and I'm pretty sure that he was talking about the game.


Also , it doesn't have to be numbers , it can be activity as well.

I can say that Jyuunishin is "more official" than Kami or others as it has 100% active members even if it has only 3 pages. It is an organization that doesn't need 100 pages as it has only a few available seats. Quality=quantity as important(or official, how you like to call it)=quality, my friend.

Just seen this.
Jyuunishin had only 10 available seats to begin with , so probably that's why it doesn't have almost any available seats with only 3 pages.
Btw Kami may not have 100% active members , but it's the 2nd biggest org here , and it doesn't need to make it's members feel "godlike".
This describes it best:

http://www.shinobilifeonline.com/index.php/topic,1418.msg17237.html#msg17237


Sorry for being off-topic.


Why can't a Kami get out of his body for a second and have an objective perspective?
Why would an organization be official? Because it's the biggest organization in the game? Or because the activity of it's members it's not overcome by any other organization that exists?

"Btw Kami may not have 100% active members , but it's the 2nd biggest org here , and it doesn't need to make it's members feel "godlike"."

Your pride is nothing. You're arrogant for what? Because your organization is numerous, what is your merit in this? You consider yourself superior to other organizations because you are many??? Oh come on, the numbers are just numbers; numbers of others don't make you better in anyway.
If a stupid joins the biggest organization from the forum, he automatically becomes a..."kami" besides the others? I would suggest you to think again. You will not become any better by being part of an organization - being it big or small- nor does that organization become better by having you. Always the individuals meter in a group. Those who become known will drag the organization with them in the light of the stage; only the individuals not all it's members. (I don't addres only to you, granit, I am saying this to any self-conceined Kami)


EDIT: I appologise for the last part, I lost my temper for a moment. I have a kind of respect for some of the Kami Senshi members, even for ones that I addressed to. You are one of them, granit. But what I said in the last part is truly what I think and I will not take my words back. You must stop thinking like: There is Kami and the rest of the world. Because, trust me, you are weak at the moment, and I know what I am saying... we are many.

First off , I wasn't saying we're stronger because of numbers , just saying  we don't make ourself feel "godlike".
Like dragon6624 said , they think they are going to be changing the whole flow of the game by killing/protecting kages.
You have to act like your org is never going to be heard of.
I don't want to offend anyone but why don't you try something that doesn't mess with kages , s-class bingo book criminals etc.
Something simple where a captain is a , well , a captain. A soldier is a soldier.
It's that simple.
You don't have to tell the members they are going to protect/kill kages and be s-class ninjas. They make themselves s-class ninjas , not their org.
(Not talking just about Jyuunishin , every one of those orgs , they've got their issues , I mean , which org doesn't have them)
That's the reason I joined Kami to begin with.


PS. The reason I replied is that Seyi said nothing more than "some orgs are official , some are not........." and you come and say "I can say Jyuunishin is more official than Kami and others because........" You were the first one first one to say a name to begin with.

PPS. Excuse me if I'm being rude or something.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Batt on June 09, 2015, 23:22:13
Quote
You don't have to tell the members they are going to protect/kill kages and be s-class ninjas. They make themselves s-class ninjas , not their org.
(Not talking just about Jyuunishin )

........ 
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: Cedie on June 10, 2015, 01:44:58
Good day boys. There are no official approval and specifications yet as to what makes an organization official so we still continue to allow organization posts to exist.
Title: Re: Official Organizations
Post by: json243 on June 10, 2015, 02:35:23
This topic is irrelevant. Kami was firing shots first, not Konohuro. What you guys ( @StrawHatSeyi and @granit ) won't understand is that all orgs are official. It doesn't matter if it has 1 person or 1000 people in it, it is still an organization. Please try to understand and @Cedie please lock this because it is getting out of hand.