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Shinobi Life Online Category => Shinobi Life Online Suggestions => Topic started by: Konohuro on January 25, 2015, 17:54:58

Title: Making plans
Post by: Konohuro on January 25, 2015, 17:54:58
If in this game the strategy will really play an important role to the success of an attack/assault, I would like to see in game an option through which you can kind of... create a room where you can share the plan of attack. I will explain everything below and I hope I will make myself clear, if not, let me know, I will try to reformulate.

I think everyone played at least one mmorpg where a player can make his own stand and sell stuff. I see this system being almost the same: a person is creating the "room" (visually he isn't doing anything special maybe e only sits on the ground and he becomes clickable), when that person is creating his room a black window pops up; other players can click that character and they join the "room" (thus they will sit on the ground around the host), the blank window that appeared to the host, appears to the guest too, the same one. After this process is done, the host can draw everything he wants on that blank window, and everything that he is drawing will appear to the guest/guests as well. While typing on the chat what every symbol represents, the host can show how the movement will go. Of course there can be added visual effects like: if you are in desert the blank window will be yellow and when you are drawing, your lines will be dark-yellow, if you are in an area with snow the blank window will be white and your drawings will be grey and so on depending on the surface, suggesting that you are making drawings on the ground with a stick or with your finger, whatever you want to imagine.
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Kayleb on January 25, 2015, 18:47:49
This would be difficult to add, and near pointless to add in my opinion. Chat should be the only way to communicate. Making plans cannot be that difficult that it would require you to draw it out.
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: rayzote on January 25, 2015, 18:50:33
If in this game the strategy will really play an important role to the success of an attack/assault, I would like to see in game an option through which you can kind of... create a room where you can share the plan of attack. I will explain everything below and I hope I will make myself clear, if not, let me know, I will try to reformulate.

I think everyone played at least one mmorpg where a player can make his own stand and sell stuff. I see this system being almost the same: a person is creating the "room" (visually he isn't doing anything special maybe e only sits on the ground and he becomes clickable), when that person is creating his room a black window pops up; other players can click that character and they join the "room" (thus they will sit on the ground around the host), the blank window that appeared to the host, appears to the guest too, the same one. After this process is done, the host can draw everything he wants on that blank window, and everything that he is drawing will appear to the guest/guests as well. While typing on the chat what every symbol represents, the host can show how the movement will go. Of course there can be added visual effects like: if you are in desert the blank window will be yellow and when you are drawing, your lines will be dark-yellow, if you are in an area with snow the blank window will be white and your drawings will be grey and so on depending on the surface, suggesting that you are making drawings on the ground with a stick or with your finger, whatever you want to imagine.

Yeah, i know what you mean, not a bad idea. When i read your first paragraph, i actually thought of a room with (idk) leaders, kages or whatever, all in the same room talking about plans and shit. I thought of an item which can be edited with some kind of program (paint) and after editing you can place the draw on a board like in front of the room. As to me what i said sounds more complex i think yours is better. thumb up.

This would be difficult to add, and near pointless to add in my opinion. Chat should be the only way to communicate. Making plans cannot be that difficult that it would require you to draw it out.

I see this as a football board with the plan draw on it.... and it sounds great to me, that's what strategy is about. In chat, it'd be hard to explain what can be easily draw.
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Mars on January 25, 2015, 18:53:01
Surely you can just explain it in chat?
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: StrawHatSeyi on January 25, 2015, 20:28:25
The kage thing @rayzote said is a good idea
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Reminance on January 25, 2015, 22:30:37
Reading most of this gave me a headache...
Im not kidding for once.
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Leebz on January 26, 2015, 00:14:19
Nope. Sorry but this sounds like that 2d game with the stalls and shit. Chat can be used to plan stuff out or even Skype
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Shivraj on January 26, 2015, 05:06:04
Or people can send/hand letters/scrolls to each other to share Intel and GMs can't see what's in these scrolls/letters, and sorry for posting this here :3. Oh and there should be some system that you can't write insulting things or prohibited things on these scrolls/letters
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Raenir on January 26, 2015, 05:26:54
Or people can send/hand letters/scrolls to each other to share Intel and GMs can't see what's in these scrolls/letters, and sorry for posting this here :3. Oh and there should be some system that you can't write insulting things or prohibited things on these scrolls/letters

For what reason would the GM's not be allowed to see what is inside?
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Shivraj on January 26, 2015, 05:35:22
I am not blaming anyone but if a gm does see what's inside then the Intel can leak out and even if he will be punished there will still be an Intel leak oh and you have to buy blank scrolls / paper and envelopes.
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: rayzote on January 26, 2015, 05:43:45
Or people can send/hand letters/scrolls to each other to share Intel and GMs can't see what's in these scrolls/letters, and sorry for posting this here :3. Oh and there should be some system that you can't write insulting things or prohibited things on these scrolls/letters

For what reason would the GM's not be allowed to see what is inside?

Are you talking about an item? because an item is not something is logged and stored, then such text would only be visible to those carrying the item. I'm thinking of something like a NotePad.
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Shivraj on January 26, 2015, 05:47:28
I was talking about text Intel and for items Intel we can send summoning scrolls if summoning items will be implemented
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Raenir on January 26, 2015, 05:51:57
I am not blaming anyone but if a gm does see what's inside then the Intel can leak out and even if he will be punished there will still be an Intel leak oh and you have to buy blank scrolls / paper and envelopes.


You don't need to be a GM to leak Intel. :P Any rogue ninja, or traitor can do just the same. IE you send me a scroll, I abandon the village and take the information with me and share it with everyone. Preventing a GM from seeing the contents wouldn't impact the frequency of Intel leaks imo.
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Shivraj on January 26, 2015, 06:05:12
Bro even rouge ninjas have Intel and well if you are sending Intel to a friend and he betrays you then he isn't much of a friend BUT I agree with your point
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Leebz on January 26, 2015, 14:11:07
Why does this keep coming up xD
Scrolls for intel in any way is pointless. If you got some top secret goverment plans that you really don't want GMs or others to see then send it by a 3rd party chatbox like Skype or Teamspeak. Scrolls for intel are not needed. Scrolls in general aren't really needed. (Unless it's for jutsu like Tenten or for summoning, if summoning is developed)
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Shivraj on January 26, 2015, 15:15:01
Not everyone will just make a Skype account just so they can share some Intel so there should be an alternative
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Mars on January 26, 2015, 16:31:16
Not everyone will just make a Skype account just so they can share some Intel so there should be an alternative
Then PM them. Creating scrolls will be a waste of time, you're just arguing for a cause that is already lost imo, sorry.
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Raenir on January 26, 2015, 21:30:21
Not everyone will just make a Skype account just so they can share some Intel so there should be an alternative
The PM them. Creating scrolls will be a waste of time, you're just arguing for a cause that is already lost imo, sorry.

^

If need be, you could even have like a chatroom system in the game to share information with a group of people. If you've played Runescape, it could be something similar to clan chat.
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Mars on January 26, 2015, 21:40:08
Not everyone will just make a Skype account just so they can share some Intel so there should be an alternative
The PM them. Creating scrolls will be a waste of time, you're just arguing for a cause that is already lost imo, sorry.

^

If need be, you could even have like a chatroom system in the game to share information with a group of people. If you've played Runescape, it could be something similar to clan chat.
That's the sort of thing I was thinking.
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Shivraj on January 28, 2015, 05:35:58
K lol I get it and I just got the idea that if there is nothing suspicious in our PMs they won't even be read
Title: Re: Making plans
Post by: Konohuro on January 29, 2015, 13:42:44
(http://smartypantsvitamins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/thinking-monkey.jpeg)

I see... ok, then.



And about the derived topic related to intel protection, I think it has no point because:

1. If you are playing on Hardcore Server, I don't think there will be "important information". Who will generate them, because there is no rp? What will they be about? About attacking a village? There is no point in planing that with other character, you can simply do it and that's it, it can't take too long to prepare and even if someone finds this out, he can't do anything, there would be not enough time to prevent something like this.

2. If you are playing on RP Server, what the player knows and what his character knows are different things. Even if an admin or someone else see a PM his character would have no reason to act as it does not know anything about the PM. Not to mention that you can't planing attacks via whisper/pm or whatever, you have to do it face to face with that character or in other RP ways.(PMs are not part of ic they are part of ooc thus they don't belong to roleplay)